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Uggh, just saying "zero trust" sends shivvers down security professionals' spines. The term is fraught with so many misnomers. The most important is who are you going to trust to actually help you build that darn zero trust program? Are you going to look at a vendor that's consolidated solutions and has built programs like this repeatedly or are you going to look for the best solutions yourself and try to figure out how best to piece it together to create that "zero trust" program?

This week's episode is hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), producer of CISO Series and Andy Ellis (@csoandy), operating partner, YL Ventures. Our sponsored guest is David Chow, global chief technology strategy officer, Trend Micro.

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In this episode:

• Why is the term "zero trust" fraught with so many misnomers?
• Is there such a thing as privacy anymore? Do you agree with the term "good enough", and if so what is a "good enough" factor, what does it entail, and what should we expect from that?
• Where has the United States done the most to improve national cybersecurity?