This is a conversation that builds on a prior podcast with Jon Eckert where he asks the question "Who do we need?", and pushes us to think deeper about who is missing in school leadership and what we can do about it. Emily shares insights from her current work, her study of Classical Languages at university, lessons from being a young head teacher, and our current affinity with the show "Ted Lasso."

Emily Norman is the Head of Networks for the Church of England Foundation for Educational Leadership, where she brings together school leaders from around England to think collaboratively about what it means to put a Christian vision into practice.