In this episode of Soul Talk, Pastor Rick tackles a pressing yet often overlooked question: Who provides spiritual care for the pastor? Drawing from research by Barna and LifeWay, he reveals staggering statistics on pastoral burnout, stress, isolation, and declining trust. Joined by engineer Matt, they explore the challenges pastors face, including the stigma around seeking help and the assumption that spiritual leaders don’t need support. Pastor Rick offers practical solutions—mentorship, peer groups, counselors, and spiritual directors—as lifelines for soul care. The episode encourages pastors to seek connection, vulnerability, and renewal, modeling healthy leadership rooted in grace, not performance.