In this episode of the Edge lockdown podcast Michael talks with another of our wonderful Edge whānau - Julia Grace - as we continue our conversation on Wholiness. Here Michael and Julia examine the intersections of our own mental health and wellbeing with the important connections, relationships and communities that make up our lives. Julia shares some really helpful, humorous and wise insights in relation to the ongoing challenges we all face in our lives; especially as we hit our “wobbly” moments, and how we can hold space and cultivate relationships in which we have the language, strategies and empathy to care for one another.