In this episode of the Edge lockdown podcast we continue our series on Wholiness by tackling the delicate, challenging and universal experiences of grief and loss. Wholiness is not about everything being shiny and perfect; instead it’s about our full humanness, including those parts of the journey that are layered with loss. In this episode Michael and Katharina talk through some different ways we experience and respond to grief and loss (including our common sense of loss in light of the current pandemic). In light of this they reflect on ways of navigating the journey of grief, the presence of the divine to us, and the possibilities of friendship in these moments and experiences.