In this episode of Second Time Around with Ken and Karen, we’re joined by a special guest, Francis, for an honest and insightful conversation about how couples can navigate disagreements without falling into the same old destructive patterns.

Together, we explore how practicing respectful communication — and learning to show up, own up, and follow up — can help transform conflict into connection. Through personal stories and real-life examples, Ken, Karen, and Francis reflect on the humility it takes to stay present and engaged, even when conversations get uncomfortable.

It’s a conversation about accountability, grace, and growth — and how love looks when we choose to listen, repair, and try again.