In Episode 42 of the Best Boss Ever podcast, Christine interviews Michael Pilla, Founder of Pilla Creative Marketing.  Michael shares stories about his two best bosses that trusted him, supported him and gave him lots of leeway to be creative and try new things - these bosses got the best out of him and he was able to make a larger impact to the business as a result.   They discuss toxic narcissism, treating people as people, the importance of knowing your audience and the pack psychology of dogs and humans who look for a leader to be in charge.