Token CEO Todd Clyde joins Open Banking Expo's head of content Ellie Duncan in this episode to explain the role that Open Banking is playing in helping account-to-account payments move away from being seen as an alternative payment method and the potential reach these payments could have. He also discusses some of the highlights from Token's 2021 so far, including its partnership with BNP Paribas and authorisation by BaFin. Todd reveals some of the challenges behind opening a new office in Berlin during the pandemic.