In this episode, we talk with Todd Persen, CTO of Hydrolix, about the invisible infrastructure behind modern software, AI systems, and the internet.

We break down what observability actually means, why startups should care about it earlier than they think, and how AI agents may soon rely on logs and telemetry to detect bugs, fix systems, and monitor infrastructure in real time.

We also get into massive data scale, the future of bot traffic, agentic commerce, software architecture, and why the real challenge in technology is often not just code, but getting people to work well together.

This is a fascinating conversation about AI, engineering, startups, and the systems quietly powering the digital world.