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AI tools won't solve your overwhelm if your processes are the problem. John Grant is a fourth-generation lawyer turned workflow consultant. He spent a decade in tech before practicing law, and another eleven years helping firms fix how work actually moves. In this conversation, he breaks down the "magical thinking" behind AI adoption, why the real bottleneck is almost never where lawyers think it is, and how speeding up the wrong step actually makes everything worse. He also explains the concepts of "definition of done" and "definition of ready," why legal has an immature relationship with quality assurance, and what courts are already seeing as AI-assisted filings flood systems that aren't built to handle them.
๐ช๐ต๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ผ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ป๐ฑ ๐๐ผ๐ฑ๐ฎ๐'๐ ๐ด๐๐ฒ๐๐:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnegrant/
https://agileattorney.comย https://greenlinelegal.com
๐ ๐ง๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฅ๐ฒ๐ฑ๐น๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ ๐ก๐ฒ๐๐๐น๐ฒ๐๐๐ฒ๐ฟ:
Get the latest news, trends, and tactics in legal AIโstraight to your inbox.
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Draft and review contracts 10x faster
โ try it free:ย https://www.spellbook.legal
๐ง๐ถ๐บ๐ฒ๐๐๐ฎ๐บ๐ฝ๐:
0:00 - Introduction
0:42 - Meet John Grant
2:13 - What is Greenline?
3:18 - AI hasn't reduced work
4:30 - The optimism bias and the planning fallacy
6:00 - AI and the last mile problem
7:09 - Output vs. productivity: the developer study
8:06 - Effort is not value
9:21 - Reimagining what value actually means
10:00 - There's only one bottleneck
11:16 - Why improving the wrong step makes things worse
12:10 - AI-assisted pro se filings are flooding courts
13:45 - More but worse vs. less but better
14:00 - Where bottlenecks actually form in legal
15:27 - Legal's immature relationship with quality assurance
16:15 - Quality control is chosen friction
17:21 - Definition of done and definition of ready
18:06 - Failure demand and rework
19:29 - Lawyering is a caregiving profession
22:39 - The board game analogy: multiple ways to lose
23:32 - The Agile Attorney 101 podcast series
25:04 - Takeaway: AI won't solve overwhelm without design
25:38 - Connect with John
By Mike WhelanAI tools won't solve your overwhelm if your processes are the problem. John Grant is a fourth-generation lawyer turned workflow consultant. He spent a decade in tech before practicing law, and another eleven years helping firms fix how work actually moves. In this conversation, he breaks down the "magical thinking" behind AI adoption, why the real bottleneck is almost never where lawyers think it is, and how speeding up the wrong step actually makes everything worse. He also explains the concepts of "definition of done" and "definition of ready," why legal has an immature relationship with quality assurance, and what courts are already seeing as AI-assisted filings flood systems that aren't built to handle them.
๐ช๐ต๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ผ ๐ณ๐ถ๐ป๐ฑ ๐๐ผ๐ฑ๐ฎ๐'๐ ๐ด๐๐ฒ๐๐:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnegrant/
https://agileattorney.comย https://greenlinelegal.com
๐ ๐ง๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฅ๐ฒ๐ฑ๐น๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ ๐ก๐ฒ๐๐๐น๐ฒ๐๐๐ฒ๐ฟ:
Get the latest news, trends, and tactics in legal AIโstraight to your inbox.
โ join free:ย https://www.spellbook.legal/newsletter
๐ ๐ฆ๐ฝ๐ฒ๐น๐น๐ฏ๐ผ๐ผ๐ธ:
Draft and review contracts 10x faster
โ try it free:ย https://www.spellbook.legal
๐ง๐ถ๐บ๐ฒ๐๐๐ฎ๐บ๐ฝ๐:
0:00 - Introduction
0:42 - Meet John Grant
2:13 - What is Greenline?
3:18 - AI hasn't reduced work
4:30 - The optimism bias and the planning fallacy
6:00 - AI and the last mile problem
7:09 - Output vs. productivity: the developer study
8:06 - Effort is not value
9:21 - Reimagining what value actually means
10:00 - There's only one bottleneck
11:16 - Why improving the wrong step makes things worse
12:10 - AI-assisted pro se filings are flooding courts
13:45 - More but worse vs. less but better
14:00 - Where bottlenecks actually form in legal
15:27 - Legal's immature relationship with quality assurance
16:15 - Quality control is chosen friction
17:21 - Definition of done and definition of ready
18:06 - Failure demand and rework
19:29 - Lawyering is a caregiving profession
22:39 - The board game analogy: multiple ways to lose
23:32 - The Agile Attorney 101 podcast series
25:04 - Takeaway: AI won't solve overwhelm without design
25:38 - Connect with John