In this episode, we share a timely and essential reminder of what we're at risk of losing in an AI-driven world: the human side of learning.

Our guest is Dave Stevens, Founder of Advanced Learning Strategies. Dave has spent 30 years at the crossroads of learning strategy and caring for people, working for organizations like Prudential and UnitedHealth. He’s also a former Las Vegas poker player—an experience that taught him firsthand how struggle and failure are essential for growth.

In this conversation, we explore:

• 🤖 Why AI’s focus on performance threatens messy, transformative human learning.
• 🧠 The "Human Side of Learning": What pioneers like Bell Hooks teach us about relational growth.
• ♠️ Lessons from a Las Vegas poker table on why failure and struggle are essential.
• 💡 How to use AI as a reflective partner instead of just a task-master.

This conversation is a delight. Dave's calm, wise presence cuts through the hype to reveal why AI's focus on performance is a direct threat to the slow, relational work of real human transformation.

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