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In this episode of Process Over Product, artists Trevor Wade Thomas and Kelsey Kopp talk through what it really means to get artwork out of the studio and into the world.
The conversation moves between internal and external realities of making: why showing work can feel vulnerable or complicated, who we are actually showing our work to, and how sharing work with other artists differs from sharing it with the broader public.
They explore practical questions artists often struggle to answer—when work is ready to be shown, how to think about different platforms and spaces for sharing work, and why circulation is not about self-promotion but about letting work enter dialogue, relationship, and culture.
Rather than treating visibility as a marketing problem, this episode frames showing work as a necessary extension of the making process—how work completes itself through witness once it leaves the studio.
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Kelsey Kopp is a landscape painter whose work is rooted in observation, repetition, and sustained engagement with place. Her practice emphasizes process as a way of understanding time, light, and perception rather than arriving at a fixed image.
Find Kelsey on instagram @kelsey_kopp_art
Trevor Wade Thomas is a painter and educator working primarily from observation. His practice centers on drawing, material process, and the relationship between labor, memory, and making. He is the founder of Oil and Earth Studio YouTube Channel, where he explores craft, teaching, and long-form artistic inquiry.
You can find Trevor online at www.trevorwadethomas.com , on YouTube at www.youtube.com/oilandearthstudio , or on Instagram @twtfineart
By Trevor ThomasIn this episode of Process Over Product, artists Trevor Wade Thomas and Kelsey Kopp talk through what it really means to get artwork out of the studio and into the world.
The conversation moves between internal and external realities of making: why showing work can feel vulnerable or complicated, who we are actually showing our work to, and how sharing work with other artists differs from sharing it with the broader public.
They explore practical questions artists often struggle to answer—when work is ready to be shown, how to think about different platforms and spaces for sharing work, and why circulation is not about self-promotion but about letting work enter dialogue, relationship, and culture.
Rather than treating visibility as a marketing problem, this episode frames showing work as a necessary extension of the making process—how work completes itself through witness once it leaves the studio.
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Kelsey Kopp is a landscape painter whose work is rooted in observation, repetition, and sustained engagement with place. Her practice emphasizes process as a way of understanding time, light, and perception rather than arriving at a fixed image.
Find Kelsey on instagram @kelsey_kopp_art
Trevor Wade Thomas is a painter and educator working primarily from observation. His practice centers on drawing, material process, and the relationship between labor, memory, and making. He is the founder of Oil and Earth Studio YouTube Channel, where he explores craft, teaching, and long-form artistic inquiry.
You can find Trevor online at www.trevorwadethomas.com , on YouTube at www.youtube.com/oilandearthstudio , or on Instagram @twtfineart