Anti-ICE protests have surged across the country, and Asian American Christians have shown up in growing numbers. But in this episode, Dr. KC Choi and Yanan Rahim Melo argue that resisting ICE—while necessary—is only a starting point. The deeper task is broader immigration reform, and ultimately, transforming what immigration itself is.

Drawing on history, theology, and the long traditions of migrant-led struggle, KC and Yanan ask: what would it mean to imagine an immigration system not built on borders, surveillance, and disposability, but on belonging, dignity, and shared life?