NBN Co's made applying for a full fibre upgrade quote pretty free and easy -- but far from inexpensive. Why is it so expensive -- and should you wait for the "free" fibre upgrade coming? Meanwhile, the Government is also touting its new "Herald" framework to improve the COVIDSafe app -- but will it improve performance enough?

Special guests ZDNet Australia journalist Asha Barbaschow (@ashabeeeee) and ZDNet Australia editor Chris Duckett (@dobes)

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