Josiah and Nate speak to the reality that so many people are leaving the church and some of the mindsets that come up when we have these conversations. As you listen, we challenge you to think if you are apart of the church how can you engage with the people who around or may be hurting from the church. Even our producer Riley has some wisdom to drop as to why many people are leaving the church!

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