The Nonprofit Insider Podcast

Why Being “Nice” Isn’t Working Anymore for Nonprofits: A conversation with Amira Barger


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AMIRA, AMIRA, AMIRA. The name is making waves in the nonprofit space. And her book is on fire.

In this episode of The Nonprofit Insider Podcast, Swim sits down with Amira Barger, author of The Price of Nice: Why Comfort Keeps Us Stuck and 4 Actions for Real Change.

Amira shares what she’s hearing from nonprofit professionals across the country, the emotional weight many people are carrying right now, and the moment she knew this book needed to be written. Together, Swim and Amira explore how niceness often shows up as compliance, avoidance, and fear—especially in times of political uncertainty and sector-wide change.

The conversation also tackles nonprofit burnout, communication breakdowns, and why “being nice” can erode dignity, humanity, and organizational effectiveness.

This episode is thoughtful, challenging, and necessary listening for nonprofit leaders, HR professionals, fundraisers, and anyone feeling stuck between comfort and courage.

Listen on Apple Podcast here: https://bit.ly/Ep72TheNonprofitInsiderPodcastApple

Listen on Spotify here: https://bit.ly/Ep72TheNonprofitInsiderPodcastSpotify

Learn more about Amira Barger here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirabarger/

Pick up the book here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/800343/the-price-of-nice-by-amira-barger/

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