This week on Into the Deep, Josh and Andrew talk about why being a boring leader might actually make you a better one. Real leadership is not about charisma or flash, it is about consistency, discipline, and doing the unglamorous work that keeps things running.

We dig into why good leaders are often overlooked, how faith calls us to serve rather than impress, and why quiet, steady leadership builds stronger teams, families, and parishes. The best leaders may not make headlines, but they make a difference where it matters most.