John and Colleen interview attorney Kiilu Davis, a valued contributor to our It Takes Courage conversations.  Kiilu is a highly respected family law attorney who has also been an athlete, a landscaper, a golfer and a force for good in pushing forward the conversation about how we can achieve a just and fair society.  Kiilu reflects on the weight and the difficulty of fighting a battle that feels like it will never end and will never be won.  And why we can't let that stop us.