In this episode of The Programming Languages Podcast, Lucas and Luna explore Carbon, the experimental language from Google designed as a successor to C++. They unpack why Carbon was created, how it aims to fix C++'s legacy pain points without breaking existing codebases, and the current state of its open-source development in 2026. The conversation contrasts Carbon with Rust's memory-safety approach and examines whether the language can achieve its goal of gradual adoption at scale. Specific examples include Carbon's generic programming model, its interoperability with C++, and the timeline for a production-ready 0.1 release. The episode also touches on the broader trend of languages trying to modernize systems programming without a rewrite-everything mandate.

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