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🎙️ DTF Cyber Podcast – Episode 011

Check out this week's episode of the DTF Cyber Podcast! On Monday, July 14th, hosts Damian, Troy, and Fern are joined by their very first special guest, Mike Manrod (CISO at Grand Canyon Education), also known as "DoubleM."

The team dives into the complex world of tech ethics with three major stories:

First, they tackle the news that Google has been ordered to pay $314 million for misusing Android users' cellular data. Is this a major privacy violation, or a low-priority risk for corporations focused on bigger threats? The hosts debate the real-world impact versus getting distracted by "shiny objects."

Next, the conversation turns to a developing story where a former ransomware negotiator is being investigated by the Department of Justice for allegedly taking kickbacks from cybercriminals. This sparks a broader discussion on business ethics, from accepting vendor gifts to the pressures facing tech leaders.

Finally, they explore the controversial topic of "overemployment". Is it unethical to work multiple remote jobs at once? The group discusses the difference between disclosed, ethical side-hustles and deceiving employers with mouse jigglers and C-minus work. This leads to a candid look at the "return to office" debate and what the future of work looks like in a post-COVID world.

Tune in for expert insights, hot takes, and a look at the ethical gray areas of cybersecurity.

Find our guest, Mike Manrod, presenting at Defcon Demo Labs!

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00:00 - Intro & Topics

00:01:02 - Welcoming Our First Special Guest: Mike Manrod

00:05:04 - Google Ordered to Pay $314M for Cellular Data Use

00:24:22 - DOJ Investigates Ransomware Negotiator for Kickbacks

00:29:43 - Discussion: The Ethics of Vendor Gifts

00:45:30 - The Ethics of Being "Overemployed"

00:54:12 - The Great "Return to Office" Debate

01:04:05 - The Myth of Being a CISO

01:06:58 - Final Thoughts & Outro

Articles in this Episode:

https://thehackernews.com/2025/07/google-ordered-to-pay-314m-for-misusing.html

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/doj-investigates-ex-ransomware-negotiator-over-extortion-kickbacks/

https://therecord.media/russian-basketball-player-arrested-in-france-ransomware

https://www.businessinsider.com/overemployed-lessons-pros-cons-secretly-working-multiple-remote-jobs-2025-6

Linkedin:

Damian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/damianchung/

Troy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kosovotroy/

Fern: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fernrojasaz/

Business Inquiries: dtf at cyberpodcast dot net