Who can make a podcast, sprinkle it with laughs, cover it in detail and split it into halves?

The Candy Man! Oh, Dave and Cath can...

Cathy has ulterior motives this episode, once they finish laughing at the cat knocking over a wooden board and scaring itself senseless. And several notes:

We talk a lot about racism in this episode. If you're not in the mood to listen to two white academics complain about racism then maybe give it a miss.

If you'd like to learn more about excited delirium, or the Reasonable Man defence (which Cathy confusingly calls the man on the bus defence), we recommend the following podcasts:

Things Fell Apart - The Most Mysterious Deaths (S2e1)

More Perfect - Mr. Graham and the Reasonable Man

 

Music is 'Helen's Theme', performed by Michael Riesman and The Western Wind, written by Philip Glass.