Who can make a podcast, sprinkle it with laughs, cover it in detail and split it into halves?

The Candy Man! Oh, Dave and Cath can...

Cathy has ulterior motives this episode. And several notes:

We talk a lot about racism in this episode. If you're not in the mood to listen to two white academics complain about racism then maybe give it a miss.

If you'd like to learn more about excited delirium, or the Reasonable Man defence (which Cathy confusingly calls the man on the bus defence), we recommend the following podcasts:

Things Fell Apart - The Most Mysterious Deaths (S2e1)

More Perfect - Mr. Graham and the Reasonable Man

 

Music is 'Helen's Theme', performed by Michael Riesman and The Western Wind, written by Philip Glass.