How many fingers am I holding up? It’s a loaded question, I know, especially these days. And it also has a lot to do with what you’ve been searching for. I’m Joel Fieri for Christian Podcast Central, stay tuned.

In our research, continuing research, that we’ve done on what you, the Christian podcast listener, have been searching for two questions came up that are actually the same question and probably would have been the number one question. One is how many sexes are there and the other is how many genders are there. Without getting into the differences between sex and gender, it’s essentially the dealing with the same issue on our society and that’s transgenderism.

Now, lately I’ve been telling you who not to listen to, Oprah Winfrey, and I mentioned someone you should listen to, Voddie Baucham, in my previous podcast. I’m going to tell you another person that I think you should be listening to, especially when it comes to this subject and that’s Albert Mohler. Al Mohler, he’s President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. And recently in a podcast, he tackled the subject of transgenderism, putting it under the umbrella of Christians making distinctions.

https://albertmohler.com/2021/05/04/briefing-5-4-21

He talks about how Christians, as Christians in today’s society, we need to maintain the ability to make distinctions. And within that, he divided the distinctions we need to make into three separate ones.

First is the distinction between God and his creation. That’s a clear distinction. The second one is between man as created in the image of God, versus the rest of creation. And the third distinction we need to make is between within that creation of man in God’s image, there is male and female. God created man in his image, male and female he created them. Where men are the expression of the male characteristics of God and women are the expression of the female attributes of God.

Well, in today’s world, there’s an attempt to blur that distinction or completely erase that distinction between male and female through transgenderism. And in this podcast, Mohler talked about some of the current expressions of that in our society, current issues that that’s bringing up. Specifically biological man competing against biological women in sports transgender men who have gone through male puberty, which gives them an advantage in sports versus women who have not.

And from that he also talked about current political situation here in California, where we’re voting to recall our governor. And if we do, the leading candidate for governor would most likely be Caitlyn Jenner, who is the leading transgender person in our society. Who recently said that biological men should not be allowed to compete against biological women, which completely sent the left and to an uproar, which is very telling.

And also on this podcast, this is where my finger question came at the beginning. As some of you are way ahead of me, he mentions George Orwell. And if you’ve ever read the book 1984, you know that there’s a famous scene in that book, famous part of it, where Winston Smith, the protagonist who has been resisting big government the whole book, is being interrogated and tortured by O’Brien.

And O’Brien holds up his hand with four fingers and he says, “How many fingers do you see?” Of course, Winston says, “I see four.” At which point he’s tortured severely. And he holds up his fingers again and says, “How many fingers do you see?” And he says, “I see four.” And O’Brien says, “No, you see five.” And this goes on and on and on. As long as Winston says he sees four instead of five,