Why do some Black Americans sometimes react dismissively to White attempts to show support for the Black community? Are White Americans too defensive of criticisms of how they approach race in America? How do our egos block our ability to understand and accept each other across racial lines and our ability to heal race relations?

In this conversation, our guests share personal experiences that demonstrate some of the challenges that can surface in black-white relations and discuss the question of how to tell if something is truly racist. They emphasize the importance of understanding different perspectives and the role of individual experience in how we respond to each other across race. They also discuss how to distinguish performative actions and meaningful actions taken toward racial healing and racial justice.