A recent report found Black Manitobans face the longest ER wait times, even when arriving with more serious conditions. Sume Ndumbe Eyoh, director of the Black Health Education Collaborative, speaks with host Marcy Markusa about the study's findings and what needs to happen next. And Dr. Barry Lavallee, chief executive officer of Keewatinohk Inniniw Minoayawin Inc, explains why he feels the report falls short on reflecting lived Indigenous experience.