This week on The Grapevine, award winning author Tony Birch reflects on his essay, ‘Things of Stone and Wood and Wool’, published in The Griffith Review and finding solace from grief in a collection of small but meaningful objects following his brother’s death. And will Australia use the economic recovery process following the COVID-19 pandemic as an opportunity for industry innovation? Editor of Renew Economy Giles Parkinson discusses the upcoming smart energy conference and what direction Australia can take with stimulus spending. Then, author Nick Brodie phones in to discuss his book Under Fire: How Australia’s violent history led to gun control and the importance of remembering the role of guns in Australian culture.