The Founder to Leader Podcast

“Why Do We Need All This Structure?” (And Other Structure vs. Freedom Dilemmas)


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In the fifth episode, we explore why founders resist structure, when they need it, and what happens when they postpone it. Because as companies grow, structure becomes unavoidable. It isn’t the opposite of freedom, but it often feels that way.

We unpack three real dilemmas:

  • Hating structure, but being asked to add it by your team
  • Feeling out of control under a very idea-driven co-founder
  • Removing leadership to empower people, but seeing progress stall instead

Joining the conversation:

  • Line Kloster Pedersen (Founder & CEO, Visibuilt)
  • Michael Pedersen (Associate Professor, Copenhagen Business School)
  • Mia Jung (Head of Leadership Development, Copenhagen Business School & Leadership Coach, Founder to Leader)
  • Yohanna Gustafsson (Podcast Host & Programme Manager, Founder to Leader)

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