In 1 Samuel 8, the people of God are stuck in the in-between. They doubted the way God had planned for them to live would keep them safe and they coveted what their neighbors had - a king in whom they can place their trust.

In this podcast, we hear Liz and Katherine wrestle with this desire for a human to save us, how God’s response seems reasonable, and why God as parent is a metaphor which really hits home for us today!

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