Michael Stein always cheers for the underdog. As an actor, filmmaker, podcaster and small business owner, Michael knows the hard work it takes to be successful.

His podcast Long Shot Leaders is designed to encourage us all as he talks with people who have made it, despite the long odds. Michael's company Abadak sells all kind of tarps.

On top of talking about podcasts, how to be sucessful, we have a little tarp talk as well. You can find Long Shot Leaders wherever you get your podcasts, and you can get your tarps at Abadak's website.