Dan Shipper is the co-founder of Every — the only subscription you need to stay at the edge of AI which is trusted by 100,000 builders. Before founding Every, Dan was the founder of Firefly, a co-browsing technology that was used by over 5,000 SMBs, and 7,000 financial advisors.

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In this episode, we sit down with Dan Shipper, co-founder and CEO of Every, for a deep dive into his journey from a curious writer to leading a powerhouse at the intersection of media and software. In a candid conversation, Dan reflects on the building of Every — from its roots as a Substack-era bundle of newsletters to its current status as a high-velocity incubator for AI-native products.

Throughout the episode, we discuss:

* The “Vibe Coding” Reality: Why Dan no longer “writes” code in the traditional sense, using AI to build functional apps like Proof in just two weeks between meetings.

* Media as R&D: How Every treats failed software as “content.” In a traditional SaaS company, a failed pivot is a total loss; at Every, it’s a viral blog post that builds more distribution.

* The “Two-Slice Team”: A riff on Bezos’s “Two-Pizza” rule. Dan explains how AI allows a single person to run an entire product line, keeping Every lean at just 20 people while managing 4+ active software products.

* The Sociology of Agents: A look at the “OpenClaw” project and a future where your AI agent doesn’t just work for you — it negotiates with other agents in Slack to get things done.

* The “Founders-Only” Room: Dan’s candid take on why he identifies as a “Founder” over a “Creator” to gain the legitimacy needed to access the world’s most powerful rooms (including early backing from LinkedIn’s Reid Hoffman).

* The 4-Year “Flatline”: A raw look at the period between 2020 and 2024 where growth stalled, and the mental resilience required to “stick it out” until the AI wave provided the ultimate tailwind.

Chapters

* (0:00) Intro

* (1:45) Dan's Hottest Trends

* (6:00) How Dan Decides Which Tools To Use

* (8:35) How Every Started & The Earliest Seeds

* (12:30) Is The Creator Economy Still A Thing?

* (14:05) Why Distribution Is The New MOAT

* (20:20) How To Launch New Products With Distribution

* (24:00) Lessons From Launching New Products

* (25:00) Is It OK To Fail?

* (27:15) Why Is Media SO Big Right Now?

* (31:40) Are You A Founder or Creator?

* (33:10) The Greatest Lesson From Reid Hoffman

* (34:15) How To Become AI Native

* (39:05) What Keeps Dan Up At Night

* (42:50) How Dan Takes Time Off

* (46:50) AI In The Next 1,000 Days

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