What if burnout isn't a breakdown — but an invitation? In this episode, we sit down with David Carolan, a former finance executive turned joy-centered ministry leader, to explore what happens when high achievers finally stop running and start resting with God. David shares his Life Model journey, his doctoral research on joy and spiritual transformation, and why maturity, community, and the fear of the Lord are the keys to a sustainable life in ministry. A must-listen for therapists, counselors, and anyone hungry for more than just productivity.