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Following Israeli strikes on Iran, The Observer’s Chloe Hadjimatheou and Jess Winch discuss the latest developments in the Middle East.

Then, Jess Winch is joined by award winning journalist and best selling author of Empire of AI Karen Hao; plus, The Observer’s Alexi Mostrous and James Tapper, as they battle to pitch the top story of the day.

**Join us at the News Meeting Live: 

• LIVE from the Observer Newsroom on Tuesday 17 June - with Zing Tsjeng and NPR’s Lauren Frayer 
• LIVE from the Observer Newsroom on Tuesday 29th July - with Charlene White and Kehinde Andrews 

** Links to everything mentioned in the episode: 

• Get your copy of Karen’s book Empire of AI: Inside the reckless race for total domination HERE
• Watch Karen’s full conversation with Patricia Clarke at the Observer Bookclub live HERE
• Listen to Alexi’s podcast series, Dr Anti-Vax HERE

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Host: Jess Winch, Managing editor at The Observer

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Executive Producer: Rebecca Moore

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