Current Affairs editor and physician Dr. Lily Sánchez joins Nathan to discuss her new (and first) Current Affairs article, "Continuing The Pandemic Is A Choice." Lily explains:

- the many things the U.S. could do differently if it was actually trying to get COVID-19 cases as close to 0 as possible

- the weird lack of a serious public education and messaging campaign around vaccination

- why having 50 different state policies makes no sense when you're trying to control a pandemic

- the need for us to refuse to accept the status quo, and demand the elimination of preventable suffering

Correction: the horrifying Rosa Parks tweet is in fact from contrarian writer James Lindsay, not a Daily Wire writer. Nathan was thinking of a different horrifying recent tweet that was from a Daily Wire writer. That one was in defense of genocide.

Point of clarification from Lily: "I did not mean to imply I endorsed a "vax or test" approach when I was talking about vaccine outreach and testing. "Vax or test" doesn't really make sense because anyone can spread the virus regardless of vaccination status. I do support a universal testing approach. What I meant was that doing a universal testing program can keep people safe even if you cannot convince everyone to get vaccinated."

You can follow Lily on Twitter @lefty_md