Chris Brown cannot be stopped. After retiring from a 34-year federal career in 2008, he was back in the workplace within two months, working for EconSys. He started out in its Human Resources Group before moving on to head its retirement seminar programs as the Deputy Director of Federal HR Software and Services. 

“I've never really thought of myself as being a retired person. I'll say I'm a retired Fed, but I am not retired. I have never actually retired.”

Although he’s not interested in retiring himself, Chris has spent his second career helping others in the federal workforce prepare for retirement through seminars he designs and teaches. 

In this episode of Government Enabled, host Linda Sue Kirschner talks to Chris about his journey teaching retirement seminars, which have taken him all across the country and even abroad. Chris also shares when he might just consider retiring. 

Though there’s no exact date in mind, one thing’s certain — he knows what to expect when that day comes, even if he’s not quite there yet. 

“I tell people, you also need to have a nonfinancial plan. What is it you're going to do every day? What time will you get up? What's the first thing you're going to do? What's the second thing you're going to do? What is that plan? I don't have one of those yet, which tells me I'm not yet ready to give it all up and just be a retired person.”