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I host this week's episode, David Spark (@dspark), producer of CISO Series and Jesse Whaley, CISO, Amtrak. Joining them is their guest Vaughn Hazen, CISO, CN.

In this episode:

• The classics endure
• The rules of the rail
• "Prove It. With data."
• It's all just software

A huge thanks to our sponsor, Doppel

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