In this powerful conversation, Jamie and Sandra Morgan dig into one of the biggest flaws in how most people enter marriage: the unspoken agreement that “we just won’t get divorced.” While that sounds noble, it’s actually a fear-based context that centers around avoidance, not purpose.

Jamie and Sandra share how they flipped the script in their own relationship by casting a clear, intentional vision of what they wanted—a future worth fighting for. From imagining life on the porch at 85 to asking, “Who do I need to become to make that vision real?”, they challenge couples to stop reacting to problems and start building toward purpose.

If you’re married, dating, divorced, or hoping to try again—this episode will give you a fresh lens, a deeper why, and practical steps to reset the context of your relationship.