Having a big family isn't the same thing as having a happy or healthy one, but don't tell that to the MAGA dads shaping policy in the White House. For guys like Pete Hegseth and JD Vance, fatherhood often seems less about being present, supportive or loving, and more about how many kids they can claim as proof of traditional values. At a time when most families can barely afford to raise even one child, this obsession with big families feels tone-deaf at best and dangerous at worst. In this episode, Amanda talks about what's really behind the rhetoric: pro-natalism, Christian nationalism and the politics of control. Steve Kennedy of the People's Parity Project is the guest.