What does it actually mean to be a godly man today — not in theory, but in real life?

In this episode of Man Up, Terry sits down with Jeff McElroy, longtime leader with Forever Families, to unpack what spiritual leadership looks like for everyday men who feel tired, intimidated, and unqualified.

Jeff shares his journey from corporate law to full-time ministry, why men often feel behind spiritually, and how insecurity, failure, and even exhaustion can become the very doorway to leadership.

This conversation dives into:

• Why men struggle with spiritual confidence

• How passivity damages families — and how to break it

• Why God works best when men feel unqualified

• What it really means to “man up”

• How legacy is built through transparency, not perfection

If you’ve ever felt like you’re failing as a spiritual leader — this episode will reframe everything.

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