In this episode, Ron sits down with Yaamini Barathi Mohan, 2024 DMA Rising Star, to break down how modern phishing attacks bypass MFA, abuse trusted services like Microsoft 365, and ultimately succeed inside the browser. Together, they examine why over-reliance on automation creates blind spots, how zero trust becomes practical at the browser layer, and why human judgment is still the deciding factor as attackers scale with AI.

02:44 - Cloud infrastructure powering crime at scale

07:45 - What phishing 2.0 really means

12:10 - How MFA gets bypassed in real attacks

15:30 - Why the browser is the final control point

18:40 - AI reducing SOC alert fatigue

23:07 - Mentorship shaping cybersecurity careers

27:00 - Thinking like attackers to defend better

31:15 - When trust becomes the attack surface

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