In this episode of the Be Fearless Podcast, Francesco Chiarini, Chairman of the ISSA Cyber Resilience Task Force and CEO & Chief Researcher at High Value Target, sits down with Aleksandra Melnikova to discuss what cyber resilience really means beyond incident response. They explore high value targets, recovery-first thinking, cyber risk quantification, and why most enterprises still misunderstand resilience. From board-level risk conversations to accountability, creativity, and skills gaps, Francesco explains how security leaders can move from reactive defense to sustainable resilience

00:00 Francesco's journey into cybersecurity, Incident response vs true cyber resilience
10:32 Defining company-specific high value targets correctly
16:15 What companies get wrong about cyber risk quantification
21:31 Why the CIA Triad matters most in pharma and healthcare
26:32 The need to address fundamental threats and manage legacy assets
34:29 The gaps Francesco wants to fill in cyber resilience
39:59 "Magic wand" for CISOs: Cyber Recovery

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