In this episode of Future Chain, Michael Jung and Jess Williams unpack McKinsey’s latest research: The State of AI in 2025. While nearly every company today is using AI - and many are piloting agents - few have scaled it in ways that drive real enterprise value.

The hosts explore what separates AI high performers from the rest. These leading firms aren’t just chasing cost savings. They’re redesigning workflows, investing in innovation, and embracing AI as a growth lever. But it comes with trade-offs. High performers report more workforce disruption and risk exposure - yet they’re also better at managing both.

If AI is truly everywhere, why are most companies still stuck at the starting line?

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