Welcome back to Cloud Chat with Stephan and Matt hosted by NetApp's Stephan Stelter, Manager Solutions Engineering, and Matt Brown, NetApp on NetApp Sr. Executive Director. In this episode, Stephan & Matt catch up on the latest in the field, talk about the rise in multi-cloud usage, refactoring approaches, moving to containers, and more.  Have more questions? Connect with a NetApp IT expert today. Email us at [email protected]