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Why Outdated Governance is Impacting Schools with Ed Hellings


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In this episode of the ISBA Bursar Conversations, Ed Hellings shares an engaging, practical, and insightful perspective on leadership, finance, and decision-making across both corporate and educational landscapes. With a career that spans Deloitte, British Aerospace, and several prestigious schools, Ed offers a masterclass in simplifying complexity, building resilient school operations, and navigating difficult transitions with purpose and professionalism.

Whether you're a new bursar, a school leader considering financial strategy, or simply someone interested in what it takes to run a school efficiently, Edโ€™s candid stories and thoughtful advice will leave you informed and inspired.

๐Ÿ”‘ Key Takeaways

โœ… Simplify the Complex

The best leaders break down complicated issues into actionable parts โ€” a skill essential for strategic finance and operational clarity.

โœ… From Corporate to Classroom

Ed's transition from BAE Systems to school bursar life proves that financial acumen and people skills matter more than sector-specific experience.

โœ… Know When to Speak Up

Whether itโ€™s forecasting losses or correcting flawed contracts, early transparency is critical. โ€œShout loud, shout earlyโ€ is Edโ€™s golden rule.

โœ… Growth Demands Strategic Caution

Plan for growth โ€” but cautiously. Staff and invest only when youโ€™re confident the demand will sustain itself.

โœ… Challenge is a Good Thing

From governing bodies to internal staff, constructive questioning leads to better outcomes. Fear of asking โ€œwhyโ€ is often the root of poor decisions.

โœ… Proprietary vs. Charity Structures

Ed contrasts how independent for-profit and charitable schools operate, especially around financial scrutiny, flexibility, and governance expectations.

โœ… Resilience Over Perfection

Being a bursar can be lonely. Strong relationships with heads and governors are crucial โ€” as is having thick skin and a sense of humor.

โฑ๏ธ Key Timestamps

[00:00:00] โ€“ The art of simplifying complexity in leadership

[00:02:00] โ€“ From audit to accountancy: Ed's early career and management lessons

[00:05:30] โ€“ BAE Systems and learning to lead under pressure

[00:08:30] โ€“ The importance of shouting early about financial red flags

[00:09:55] โ€“ Avoiding paralysis: donโ€™t let complexity block action

[00:11:30] โ€“ Agility over avoidance in crisis decisions like TPS

[00:14:00] โ€“ Advice for managing growing schools: plan cautiously

[00:16:30] โ€“ Small changes, big returns: the cost of an extra student

[00:18:00] โ€“ Balancing educational passion with financial sustainability

[00:21:30] โ€“ Teaching heads financial awareness โ€” one conversation at a time

[00:23:45] โ€“ Governance dynamics: headโ€“bursarโ€“governor stool analogy

[00:25:00] โ€“ Loneliness in leadership and how to handle it

[00:28:00] โ€“ The hidden flaws of yearly fee increases

[00:30:30] โ€“ Weighing experience vs. cost in staffing decisions

[00:32:00] โ€“ Is 15 years too long to stay in one school? Reinvention vs. burnout

[00:34:00] โ€“ Queen Anneโ€™s, St Maryโ€™s Calne, and now The Marist: structural differences

[00:36:00] โ€“ How proprietary schools deal with compliance, like minibus regs

[00:38:00] โ€“ Monthly finance reviews: corporate-style school oversight

[00:40:00] โ€“ Embracing accountability and direct challenge

[00:43:30] โ€“ Outsourcing realities post-VAT changes

[00:46:45] โ€“ The next 2 years: closures, mergers, and for-profit transitions

[00:49:00] โ€“ Brave thinking: structure shake-ups and daring moves

[00:52:00] โ€“ TPS: revolution vs. evolution in decision-making

[00:53:30] โ€“ Bums on seats: enrollment drives everything

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