Today's guest is a retired lawyer and a banker, Leonard Grunstein. Grunstein and Klein have discussed the reasons why the pro-Hamas protests on college campuses are not about free speech from various perspectives.

The strong measures not to allow hate speeches and Antisemitism on college campuses and public places had to be taken much earlier. 

It's crucial to have strong measures against those who violate laws with harmful intent to hurt people, which includes Antisemitism.