Frazier reflects on how people often look back fondly on the grind of starting a company, joining a startup, or changing careers, even if it felt stressful at the time. He shares a conversation with a longtime colleague from his hedge fund days and admits that, despite burnout and eventually taking a sabbatical, he misses parts of the late nights, on-call work, and even “crappy pizza” because they came with focus and a definite purpose. During his mini-retirement, despite having money and freedom to travel or play golf, he was bored because he lacked goals and felt unfulfilled. Frazier argues that fulfillment comes from aligning with purpose, giving your best effort, and building toward something, encouraging listeners to soak in the current struggle and find that “juice” if they’re going to bed unfulfilled.