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Why Resilient Leadership Starts with Your Nervous System | Kathleen Gramzay


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Is leadership resilience all about mindset? Think again.

In this week’s episode of The Optimized Workplace, Fran Dean-Bishop sits down with Kathleen Gramzay, the founder of Kinessage and a body-mind resilience expert.

Kathleen shares her groundbreaking approach to self-care, nervous system regulation, and leadership performance—a strategy she developed after overcoming chronic pain and burnout herself.

Today, we’re unpacking what resilient leadership really means, the hidden signs of burnout, how chronic stress affects decision-making and workplace culture, and why self-care isn’t a luxury but a business strategy.

If you’re leading a team or just trying to navigate high-stress environments, this episode will challenge the way you think about resilience.

Tune in now!


Key Takeaways:

Introduction (00:00)

What is resilient leadership, and why does it matter? (02:26)

Signs when leaders lack resilience (05:09)

Kathleen’s journey from chronic pain to self-care expert (07:26) 

How trauma and stress hide in the body and impact leadership (11:06)

Importance of nervous system awareness in workplace performance (15:59)

Why self-care is a leadership strategy, not a luxury (21:14)

Simple and practical changes to improve resilience (24:56) 

Kathleen’s upcoming projects (26:37)


Additional Resources:

Connect with Fran on LinkedIn: Connect with Fran

Follow our LinkedIn page: Aerobodies

Learn more about WellTeamCulture here: Create a cohesive-healthy work culture 

Visit our website here: Aerobodies

Follow Kathleen Gramzay on LinkedIn: Kathleen Gramzay

Check out Kathleen’s Self-Care System: Kinessage Self-Care

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The Optimized WorkplaceBy Fran Dean-Bishop