In this episode, Todd Bertsch sits down with Michael E. Krumpak to challenge the myth that “smart” leadership is enough. Together, they unpack a practical, story-driven roadmap for building legendary leaders through psychological safety, empathy, growth mindset, disciplined decision making, and intentional delegation.

If you’ve ever seen a “perfect on paper” leader struggle when pressure rises, this conversation explains why — and what to do differently starting now.

In This Episode, We Cover:

• The difference between smart leadership and legendary leadership
• Why the bold title Why Smart Leaders Do Stupid Things resonates right now
• Disruption, burnout, and mindset as leadership data points
• The nine-vector Legendary Leader Flight Plan and how the vectors work together
• Liberation as psychological safety and its impact on culture
• Empathy as connection over correction
• Using 360s and assessments to uncover blind spots
• Decision-making lessons from Flight 401 and fixation under pressure
• Yielding, delegation, and how to truly elevate ownership
• How the book’s stories, black box reflections, and coaching questions create behavior change

You’ll walk away with actionable tactics, reflection prompts, and a clearer path from pressure to performance — from smart to legendary.

https://www.toddbertsch.com/podcast/why-smart-leaders-do-stupid-things-with-michael-krumpak

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