In this episode I talk with theologian Philip Ziegler about something Christians seem to rarely stop to think about: the devil. His new book makes a serious case for why the doctrine of the devil still matters for understanding evil, the gospel, and Christian hope.

Philip G. Ziegler is Professor of Christian Dogmatics at the University of Aberdeen. After holding a Postdoctoral Research Fellowship at Princeton University's Center for the Study of Religion, Philip taught for several years at the Atlantic School of Theology in Halifax, Canada as Assistant Professor of Systematic Theology, and joined the faculty of the University of Aberdeen as Lecturer in Systematic Theology in January 2006. He is the author of Doing Theology When God is Forgotten: The Theological Achievement of Wolf Krötke (2007) and Militant Grace: The Apocalyptic Turn and the Future of Christian Theology (2018) and most recently, God's Adversary and Ours: A Brief Theology of the Devil (2025).

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