In this conversation, I sit down with Lisa Gill, facilitator, coach, and host of Leadermorphosis, to explore what it really means to move toward radically decentralized organizations and why this shift is as much inner as it is structural.

We explore why traditional hierarchies are struggling, how consent-based and advice processes change the way decisions are made, and why trust and accountability are not opposites but deeply interconnected. We also talk about psychological safety, discomfort as a catalyst for growth, and the inner maturity required to work without control.

This episode is for anyone who has felt that something about work no longer fits, who senses that typical hierarchy isn’t the answer, or who is curious about what it takes to create organizations that are more human, responsible, and alive.

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Lisa Gill is a facilitator, coach, and organizational practitioner specializing in decentralized organizations, self-management, and inner development. Through her work and her podcast Leadermorphosis, she supports leaders and teams in navigating power, trust, accountability, and the human dynamics required for a new way of working.

→ Learn more about Lisa’s work: https://www.reimaginaire.com/

→ Connect with Lisa: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-gill-23815a4/

Related material we talked about:

→ The authenticity trap blog https://open.substack.com/pub/octopusyarn/p/authenticity-is-a-trap?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=1180

→ The radical hospitality blog by Amahra Spence: https://substack.com/home/post/p-176260798

→ Mia Mingus' thoughts on accountability: https://leavingevidence.wordpress.com/2019/12/18/how-to-give-a-good-apology-part-1-the-four-parts-of-accountability/

→ Lisa's blog where I write about the five core systems/three shifts: https://substack.com/@reimaginaire/p-162406942

→ Lisa's episode with Miki Kashtan where she talks about the three shifts: https://leadermorphosis.co/pages/episodes/Miki-Kashtan-on-the-three-shifts-needed-for-self-managing-organisations-to-thrive.html

→ Lisa's blog about the pendulum of doom: https://substack.com/@reimaginaire/p-147115093

→ Lisa's episode with Perttu about Radically Decentralised Organisations: https://leadermorphosis.co/pages/episodes/perttu-salovaara-on-radically-decentralised-organisations-and-leaderless-leadership

Thank you for listening and for being part of the new world in the making.