Why does the Western church struggle to talk about grief, loss, and suffering? Pastor Karl Fay joins Tim Ahlman for a raw and inspiring conversation about faith, art, and the power of walking through brokenness instead of avoiding it.

Karl—an artist, husband, dad, and senior pastor at Prince of Peace Lutheran Church—opens up about:
- Why Western Christians often ignore death and suffering
- How grief and melancholy shape authentic faith
- The surprising ways art can give us language for pain and hope
- Why Jesus Himself should be seen as an artist who transforms suffering into beauty

This episode will challenge your view of grief, faith, and creativity—and may just change how you see the role of art in the church.

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